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    Quote Originally Posted by HMT15070 View Post
    Maaf gan mungkin ini sering mengulang pertanyaan dari thread yang udh ada sebelumnya yah, sebetulnya Insta***** itu pakai MT5 atau MT4 ya? tapi kalo kegunaannya sih kurang lebih menurut ane sama aja gan antara MT4 dan MT5 yang penting sama-sama mesin untuk menganalisa ***** dan semacamnya kan hehe
    Untuk sementara sepertinya kebanyakan trader masih menggunakan MT4.
    Belum ada aturan dari broker Insta***** untuk hijrah ke MT5 platform bukan indo MT5 tentunya. nanti kalau sudah ada pemberitahuan mungkin akan beramai-ramai mempelajari bagaimana mengoperasikan MT5 dan bagi yang sudah faham selain bermanfaat bagi dirinya nanti suatu saat pemahamannya akan bermanfaat sangat bagi trader baru yang masih asing dengan MT5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flower View Post
    Untuk sementara sepertinya kebanyakan trader masih menggunakan MT4.
    Belum ada aturan dari broker Insta***** untuk hijrah ke MT5 platform bukan indo MT5 tentunya. nanti kalau sudah ada pemberitahuan mungkin akan beramai-ramai mempelajari bagaimana mengoperasikan MT5 dan bagi yang sudah faham selain bermanfaat bagi dirinya nanti suatu saat pemahamannya akan bermanfaat sangat bagi trader baru yang masih asing dengan MT5.
    MT5 memang sudah keluar beberapa tahun lalu namun saya juga tidak tertarik. tidak tahu kenapa tetap nyaman di MT4. mungkin kalau lihat fitur MT5 yang agak aneh jadinya harus menyesuaikan diri lagi malah males. lagipula MT4 sudah cukup mewakili kebutuhan trader sehingga tidak harus hijrah ke platform lain. sebenarnya hanya soal kebiasaan sih, kalau kita sudah merasa cocok tentu tidak masalah ke MT5 nantinya.

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    Info dari saya. Perbedaanya terletak di Sistem Order. D MT5 berkenaan dengan peraturan NFA (National Futures Association). Jika kita menggunakan MT4, misalnya kita membuka 1 lot posisi buy EUR/USD, kemudian membuka lagi buy 1 lot. Saat ini kita memiliki 2 posisi buy masing-masing 1 lot, dan terakhir membuka lagi 3 lot posisi sell, maka kita memiliki 3 posisi, yaitu 2 posisi buy masing-masing 1 lot dan 1 posisi sell sebanyak 3 lot. Di MT5 tidak demikian. Sistem ordernya bersifat akumulatif. Misalnya kita membuka 1 lot posisi buy EUR/USD, kemudian membuka lagi buy 1 lot. Maka saat ini kita memiliki 1 posisi buy sejumlah 2 lot. Kemudian bila kita membuka lagi 3 lot posisi sell, maka kita akan memiliki 1 posisi, yaitu tinggal 1 posisi sell sejumlah 1 lot. Ini akumulasi dari 2 lot buy + 3 lot sell = 1 lot sell.

    Karena sistem order yang demikian, banyak trader yang masih menggunakan MT4 agar mereka bisa bebas menggunakan strategi hedging, atau sering disebut locking. Strategi ini dilakukan dengan membuka dua posisi berlawanan. Misalnya kita membuka posisi Long, ternyata rugi. Kemudian posisi tersebut kita kunci dengan membuka posisi Short. Jadi sekarang kita memiliki dua posisi Long dan Short yang sama-sama terbuka. Dengan demikian kerugian kita menjadi terbatas. Harga bergerak ke manapun, kerugian kita masih sama. Di MT5 hal ini tidak bisa kita lakukan. Jika kita memiliki posisi Long dan kemudian membuka posisi Short maka dianggap kedua posisi tersebut sudah ditutup.

    Ada salahsatu alasan yang juga membuat saya kurang minat dengan MT5 yaitu MT5 ini tidak kompatibel dengan robot trading otomatis atau EA yang dibangun dengan MQL4. Padahal, sudah saya pengguna MT4 yang sudah nyaman dan merasa cocok dengan robot trading berbasis MQL4. Kedua, MT5 tidak mengijinkan hedging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ngatno View Post
    MT5 memang sudah keluar beberapa tahun lalu namun saya juga tidak tertarik. tidak tahu kenapa tetap nyaman di MT4. mungkin kalau lihat fitur MT5 yang agak aneh jadinya harus menyesuaikan diri lagi malah males. lagipula MT4 sudah cukup mewakili kebutuhan trader sehingga tidak harus hijrah ke platform lain. sebenarnya hanya soal kebiasaan sih, kalau kita sudah merasa cocok tentu tidak masalah ke MT5 nantinya.
    bagi sebagian trader saya dengar katanya mt5 terasa lebih sempurna dibandingkan dengan mt4, sebenarnya masuk akal juga sih metatrader mengeluarkan mt5 pastinya merancang fitur untuk menyempurnakan kekurangan dari mt4 tapi entah kenapa saya juga belum pernah berpikir untuk pindah dari mt4 mungkin karena mt4 sudah terasa sangat familyar kali ya

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    Semnetara ini saya masih fokus dan nyaman di Mt4 karena fitur,dan chart nya msh bs di mengerti.klo mt5 sy blm sms sklali mengenalnya jd msh agak gimana gt walau nnantinya akan kesana sesuai tuntutan dan kbutuhan trader.saran saya klo bs di dijelaskan detailnya brokelebihan dan kekuranganya biar bs di pahami sdikit broooh

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    Quote Originally Posted by doel View Post
    Bagi yang belum tahu apa perbedaan antara MT4 dan MT5 Platform bisa cek seperti dibawah ini :

    Sumber : Disini



    MetaTrader5 is the keenly anticipated next generation of the hugely successful MetaTrader4 trading system. MT5 is not just an upgrade to MT4. It has been absolutely reconstructed from scratch.


    Here are the claimed features of Metatrader 5.

    * Three chart-types, twenty-one timeframes and over 70 analytical tools.
    * 5 order types and 4 execution modes available for trading.
    * Implements almost any trading methods.
    * Advanced in-built reports on all trading activities.
    * Built-in indicators and graphical objects permits quicker research of quotes and trade decision-making.
    * High performance and superb speed MQL5 development environment with new IntellySence system and more complicated technique tester.

    As most of you’ll know, Metatrader 4 ( MT4 ) is the most generally used ‘off the shelf’ platform in the foreign exchange and CFD markets. It is anticipated that when MT5 is out of beta, it too will be widely used.

    Today MT4 is the dealing system of choice for just about all foreign exchange EAs as well as custom indicators and scripts.

    Unfortunately, the Metatrader4 language will not be compatible with MetaTrader 5 . In order to meet the incorporate the requested features and execution speed, a new object orientated programming language was developed. As a result, existing MT4 custom indicators and EAs ( .mq4 and .ex4 files ) will not work with MT5 platform.

    You might be thinking that any new investment in MT4 custom indicators, scripts and bots is wasted. That’s actually not true. MT5 is probably going to be in beta for a minimum of six more months. The current Mt5 beta doesn’t even include a method testing function. So it could be as long a year before any heavy MT5 androids become available.

    Even when MT5 has matured into a stable trading system, the amazingly favored MT4, is still going to be supported by brokers for years to come. If traders demand it, brokers will support it. You can expect many brokers will be supporting both platforms and there is zilch to stop you running both MT4 and MT5 clients at the same time.

    It is only a matter of time before a MT4/MT5 compatibility is developed. Most likely this will be in the shape of a compatibility module or MT4 virtualization plugin for MT5. Rather than recoding every MT4 indicator and EA for MT5, it is nearly certain that some clever programmers will code a virtual MT4 plugin platform for MT5. Much like the way you can now run Windows in a virtual machine on a Linux box or Linux inside OS X.

    Once a tool is developed to convert existing Expert Advisors and indictors from MT4 to MT5, then the uptake of the MT5 platform will happen more quickly.

    Here is the official announcement about MQ4 and MQ5 compatibility:

    ‘From the beginning of Metatrader 5 development we presumed that we’ll be able to save the compatibility. And we announced about it many times. But the countless traders/developers requests made us change our mind. We’ve understood that just can not make a new language compatible. At the same time we have made MQL5 more powerful and in this fashion we gave you, traders and developers, more capabilities – that was our main goal in developing of MQL5 IDE. From one side, new language with the new abilities, and from the other side – MQL4 and MQL5 compatibility. Sadly, these 2 aims can’t be contacted at the same time.’ Interview with Metrader5 lead developer

    The complaint frequently heard about MT4 is that it was built by programmers not traders. Definitely it was assembled with attention on the front end and’client side’ rather than the brokers back office side. The platform itself evolved from a price and info delivery terminal that became very popular with traders. Users then started to ask whether trading functions may be built into it. Metaquotes used the same architecture and added trading functionality to it, leading some to call MT4 a Frankenstein creation.

    No Hedging and observance of the New NFA Rules.

    Some may feel that the NFA regulated foreign exchange brokers are driving the MT5 development. Others are saying the MT5 position/order management is to the benefit of the brokers not the traders. Afterall, it’s the brokers who pay for the Metatrader platform.

    To meet ***** industry standards, MT5 changes the entire core of position handling. From this point on MT5 traders will be able to keep only one position of any single trading instrument/currency pair. This reflection of orders aligns with the new FIFO ( first-in, first-out ) rule implemented by NFA as a sector standard in summer 2009.

    Hedging at about that point is eliminated and so is the separate management of 2 different in time orders on the same currency pair. Purchasing and Selling the same pair ( hedging methodology ) will end up in nil positions being open.

    For example : 9:00am Long GBP/USD 1 lot 1.3000, and later added 12:00pm Long GBP/USD 2 lots 1.3500, will be seen on Metatrader 5 account as one position’Long GBP/USD three lots’.

    The first order to shut is always the order that was initiated first, so it’ll always be the 8:00am Long position to close in our example above.


    Is the FIFO and No Hedging a Show Stopper?

    No individual orders listed, NO Hedging, and INCOMPATIBLE with anything MT4. Is this a step BACKWARDS?

    If you like the way MT4 works for you now and or have made the move to a non NFA regulated broker then MT5 doesn’t look a really tasty prospect.

    However there’ll be other instruments and charts accessible beyond *****. Such as futures ( cfd-versions ) together with heaps of option classes. Lots of opportunities for real-world hedging, ( i.e. Where the 2 instruments aren’t matching ) and for trading styles that are at present not possible. Like buying options on signals, instead of just going long or short the currency pair. Or constructing ***** grids with options.

    Some traders have asserted that FIFO ( first order in first order out ) impedes counter trend trading or engaging in a quick scalp in the other way when you already have an open position. It doesn’t affect your net position but it affects the way you must manage your trades.

    Correlation Code Cheat SheetsCorrelation secrets are also a noticeable alternative way to hedge. Hedging a position can be accomplished by taking position in more than one interrelated currency pair. And in MT5 this could be expanded to currency exchange options and their underlying currencies or currency exchange futures and their own options. Actually if you’re trading on more than one currency pair then currency correlations and their impact leverage and risk is something that has to be well understood.

    Dari info lain disini

    [IMG]http://www.100*****brokers.com/mfiles/mt5_positions.png[/IMG]

    bagi yang udah pake ini platform mohon di share pengalamannya dengan metatrader yang baru ini dunk seperti apa. Supaya semua tahu dan mengenal dan bisa beradaptasi dengan platform yang baru ini.

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    Ini berarti MT 5 lebih lengkap dripada MT4,banyak tambahan indicatornya juga,tpi apakah dgn menggunakan mt5 akan lebih mudah menganalisa market dripada mt4?
    Klo memang lebih mudah menggunakan MT5,lalu apa nma indicator yg kita pakai dlm MT5 yg tdk ada di MT4?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuyunx View Post
    bagi sebagian trader saya dengar katanya mt5 terasa lebih sempurna dibandingkan dengan mt4, sebenarnya masuk akal juga sih metatrader mengeluarkan mt5 pastinya merancang fitur untuk menyempurnakan kekurangan dari mt4 tapi entah kenapa saya juga belum pernah berpikir untuk pindah dari mt4 mungkin karena mt4 sudah terasa sangat familyar kali ya
    Kalau saya pribadi sih belum pernah menggunakan MT5 dan masih setia menggunakan MT4 dan saya rasa dalam penggunaan MT itu tergantu dari kebiasaan sitradernya dan yang mana bisa membuat nyaman saat trading karena fungsi dan tujuannya kan sama saja yaitu menghasilkan profit jadi apapun bentuknya yang penting kita bisa nyaman saat trading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lipong View Post
    Kalau saya pribadi sih belum pernah menggunakan MT5 dan masih setia menggunakan MT4 dan saya rasa dalam penggunaan MT itu tergantu dari kebiasaan sitradernya dan yang mana bisa membuat nyaman saat trading karena fungsi dan tujuannya kan sama saja yaitu menghasilkan profit jadi apapun bentuknya yang penting kita bisa nyaman saat trading.
    sama seperti saya yang sudah terlanjur nyaman dengan mt4 walaupun katanya mt5 lebih sempurna dibandingkan dengan mt4 saya belum mau pindah terkecuali mt4 sudah tidak bisa diakses lagi he.he.he.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuyunx View Post
    sama seperti saya yang sudah terlanjur nyaman dengan mt4 walaupun katanya mt5 lebih sempurna dibandingkan dengan mt4 saya belum mau pindah terkecuali mt4 sudah tidak bisa diakses lagi he.he.he.
    salam pips..
    sama dengan saya gan, paling tidak hingga saat ini saya juga masih tetep lebih milih trading pakai mt4 dibandingkan dengan platform trading lainnya. udah bisa menikmati trading dengan mt4 dan saya percaya kualitasnya gak kalah dibandingkan dengan mt5, malah saya denger - denger fitur di mt5 gak jauh beda dengan mt4 paling hanya tambahan fitur tertentu misalnya di mt5 ada fitur kalender ekonominya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by king***** View Post
    salam pips..
    sama dengan saya gan, paling tidak hingga saat ini saya juga masih tetep lebih milih trading pakai mt4 dibandingkan dengan platform trading lainnya. udah bisa menikmati trading dengan mt4 dan saya percaya kualitasnya gak kalah dibandingkan dengan mt5, malah saya denger - denger fitur di mt5 gak jauh beda dengan mt4 paling hanya tambahan fitur tertentu misalnya di mt5 ada fitur kalender ekonominya.
    Butuh waktu untuk adaptasi dari mt4 ke mt5 , jadi menurut saya jika pihak broker masih memperbolehkan menggunakan mt4 kita tetap memggunakannya namun tidak ada salahnya jika mulai sekarang kita sedikit demi sedikit mulai mempelajari mt5 , jadi seandainya nanti broker memutuskan untuk memggunakan mt5 kita tidak kebingungan

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