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    Question Informasi mengenai Perbedaan MT4 & MT5 Platform

    Bagi yang belum tahu apa perbedaan antara MT4 dan MT5 Platform bisa cek seperti dibawah ini :

    Sumber : Disini



    MetaTrader5 is the keenly anticipated next generation of the hugely successful MetaTrader4 trading system. MT5 is not just an upgrade to MT4. It has been absolutely reconstructed from scratch.


    Here are the claimed features of Metatrader 5.

    * Three chart-types, twenty-one timeframes and over 70 analytical tools.
    * 5 order types and 4 execution modes available for trading.
    * Implements almost any trading methods.
    * Advanced in-built reports on all trading activities.
    * Built-in indicators and graphical objects permits quicker research of quotes and trade decision-making.
    * High performance and superb speed MQL5 development environment with new IntellySence system and more complicated technique tester.

    As most of you’ll know, Metatrader 4 ( MT4 ) is the most generally used ‘off the shelf’ platform in the foreign exchange and CFD markets. It is anticipated that when MT5 is out of beta, it too will be widely used.

    Today MT4 is the dealing system of choice for just about all foreign exchange EAs as well as custom indicators and scripts.

    Unfortunately, the Metatrader4 language will not be compatible with MetaTrader 5 . In order to meet the incorporate the requested features and execution speed, a new object orientated programming language was developed. As a result, existing MT4 custom indicators and EAs ( .mq4 and .ex4 files ) will not work with MT5 platform.

    You might be thinking that any new investment in MT4 custom indicators, scripts and bots is wasted. That’s actually not true. MT5 is probably going to be in beta for a minimum of six more months. The current Mt5 beta doesn’t even include a method testing function. So it could be as long a year before any heavy MT5 androids become available.

    Even when MT5 has matured into a stable trading system, the amazingly favored MT4, is still going to be supported by brokers for years to come. If traders demand it, brokers will support it. You can expect many brokers will be supporting both platforms and there is zilch to stop you running both MT4 and MT5 clients at the same time.

    It is only a matter of time before a MT4/MT5 compatibility is developed. Most likely this will be in the shape of a compatibility module or MT4 virtualization plugin for MT5. Rather than recoding every MT4 indicator and EA for MT5, it is nearly certain that some clever programmers will code a virtual MT4 plugin platform for MT5. Much like the way you can now run Windows in a virtual machine on a Linux box or Linux inside OS X.

    Once a tool is developed to convert existing Expert Advisors and indictors from MT4 to MT5, then the uptake of the MT5 platform will happen more quickly.

    Here is the official announcement about MQ4 and MQ5 compatibility:

    ‘From the beginning of Metatrader 5 development we presumed that we’ll be able to save the compatibility. And we announced about it many times. But the countless traders/developers requests made us change our mind. We’ve understood that just can not make a new language compatible. At the same time we have made MQL5 more powerful and in this fashion we gave you, traders and developers, more capabilities – that was our main goal in developing of MQL5 IDE. From one side, new language with the new abilities, and from the other side – MQL4 and MQL5 compatibility. Sadly, these 2 aims can’t be contacted at the same time.’ Interview with Metrader5 lead developer

    The complaint frequently heard about MT4 is that it was built by programmers not traders. Definitely it was assembled with attention on the front end and’client side’ rather than the brokers back office side. The platform itself evolved from a price and info delivery terminal that became very popular with traders. Users then started to ask whether trading functions may be built into it. Metaquotes used the same architecture and added trading functionality to it, leading some to call MT4 a Frankenstein creation.

    No Hedging and observance of the New NFA Rules.

    Some may feel that the NFA regulated foreign exchange brokers are driving the MT5 development. Others are saying the MT5 position/order management is to the benefit of the brokers not the traders. Afterall, it’s the brokers who pay for the Metatrader platform.

    To meet ***** industry standards, MT5 changes the entire core of position handling. From this point on MT5 traders will be able to keep only one position of any single trading instrument/currency pair. This reflection of orders aligns with the new FIFO ( first-in, first-out ) rule implemented by NFA as a sector standard in summer 2009.

    Hedging at about that point is eliminated and so is the separate management of 2 different in time orders on the same currency pair. Purchasing and Selling the same pair ( hedging methodology ) will end up in nil positions being open.

    For example : 9:00am Long GBP/USD 1 lot 1.3000, and later added 12:00pm Long GBP/USD 2 lots 1.3500, will be seen on Metatrader 5 account as one position’Long GBP/USD three lots’.

    The first order to shut is always the order that was initiated first, so it’ll always be the 8:00am Long position to close in our example above.


    Is the FIFO and No Hedging a Show Stopper?

    No individual orders listed, NO Hedging, and INCOMPATIBLE with anything MT4. Is this a step BACKWARDS?

    If you like the way MT4 works for you now and or have made the move to a non NFA regulated broker then MT5 doesn’t look a really tasty prospect.

    However there’ll be other instruments and charts accessible beyond *****. Such as futures ( cfd-versions ) together with heaps of option classes. Lots of opportunities for real-world hedging, ( i.e. Where the 2 instruments aren’t matching ) and for trading styles that are at present not possible. Like buying options on signals, instead of just going long or short the currency pair. Or constructing ***** grids with options.

    Some traders have asserted that FIFO ( first order in first order out ) impedes counter trend trading or engaging in a quick scalp in the other way when you already have an open position. It doesn’t affect your net position but it affects the way you must manage your trades.

    Correlation Code Cheat SheetsCorrelation secrets are also a noticeable alternative way to hedge. Hedging a position can be accomplished by taking position in more than one interrelated currency pair. And in MT5 this could be expanded to currency exchange options and their underlying currencies or currency exchange futures and their own options. Actually if you’re trading on more than one currency pair then currency correlations and their impact leverage and risk is something that has to be well understood.

    Dari info lain disini

    [IMG]http://www.100*****brokers.com/mfiles/mt5_positions.png[/IMG]

    bagi yang udah pake ini platform mohon di share pengalamannya dengan metatrader yang baru ini dunk seperti apa. Supaya semua tahu dan mengenal dan bisa beradaptasi dengan platform yang baru ini.

    Thanks
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    Penjelasan yang bahasa Indonesia ga ada ya gan, memang sih walau masih lama kita harus mulai mempersiapkan diri untuk migrasi ke MT5 supaya kedepannya ga terlalu kaget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenji View Post
    Penjelasan yang bahasa Indonesia ga ada ya gan, memang sih walau masih lama kita harus mulai mempersiapkan diri untuk migrasi ke MT5 supaya kedepannya ga terlalu kaget.
    Hihihi. belum pake bahasa indonesia neh gan. lom sempet juga buat translate nya... ada nilai plus nya da nilai minusnya seh katanya, seperti dilihat dari gambar dan penjelasan bahwa di MT5 ini kita dibatasi untuk setiap pair hanya bisa OP sekian saja( lihat gambar), ga seperti di MT4 masih dikasih keleluasaan untuk buka OP berapa aja sesuai ketentuan broker di tiap pair mata uang. Sisi baiknya tiap OP jadi ga terlalu sibuk alias bisa langsung di eksekusi saat itu juga. gitu kira kira .... ada yang mau nambahin ...?
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    ane buat hedge untuk pair EU, rupanya yang floating ane kena sapu... trade di mt5 ngak bisa buat hedge ya

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    Quote Originally Posted by *****-coma View Post
    ane buat hedge untuk pair EU, rupanya yang floating ane kena sapu... trade di mt5 ngak bisa buat hedge ya
    Wahhh.. gitu yah.. saya sendiri belum coba neh MT5 nya.
    Masih keasikan pake MT4, sama seperti mainan yang biasa kita mainkan terus diganti yang baru jadi kaya gimana gt rasanya.
    Thanks info nya ...
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    Wah MT5 ernyata masih beta, ya brarti buat demo aja, buat real acc gak mau coba-cobi ane
    Kebenaran saat ini bukanlah berarti kebenaran esok hari , Kemenangan saat ini bukanlah berarti kemenangan esok hari
    Kekalahanmu saat ini bukanlah berarti kekalahanmu esok hari.. hidup adalah Perjuangan Tanpa Henti

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    Quote Originally Posted by doel View Post
    Bagi yang belum tahu apa perbedaan antara MT4 dan MT5 Platform bisa cek seperti dibawah ini :

    Sumber : Disini



    MetaTrader5 is the keenly anticipated next generation of the hugely successful MetaTrader4 trading system. MT5 is not just an upgrade to MT4. It has been absolutely reconstructed from scratch.


    Here are the claimed features of Metatrader 5.

    * Three chart-types, twenty-one timeframes and over 70 analytical tools.
    * 5 order types and 4 execution modes available for trading.
    * Implements almost any trading methods.
    * Advanced in-built reports on all trading activities.
    * Built-in indicators and graphical objects permits quicker research of quotes and trade decision-making.
    * High performance and superb speed MQL5 development environment with new IntellySence system and more complicated technique tester.

    As most of you’ll know, Metatrader 4 ( MT4 ) is the most generally used ‘off the shelf’ platform in the foreign exchange and CFD markets. It is anticipated that when MT5 is out of beta, it too will be widely used.

    Today MT4 is the dealing system of choice for just about all foreign exchange EAs as well as custom indicators and scripts.

    Unfortunately, the Metatrader4 language will not be compatible with MetaTrader 5 . In order to meet the incorporate the requested features and execution speed, a new object orientated programming language was developed. As a result, existing MT4 custom indicators and EAs ( .mq4 and .ex4 files ) will not work with MT5 platform.

    You might be thinking that any new investment in MT4 custom indicators, scripts and bots is wasted. That’s actually not true. MT5 is probably going to be in beta for a minimum of six more months. The current Mt5 beta doesn’t even include a method testing function. So it could be as long a year before any heavy MT5 androids become available.

    Even when MT5 has matured into a stable trading system, the amazingly favored MT4, is still going to be supported by brokers for years to come. If traders demand it, brokers will support it. You can expect many brokers will be supporting both platforms and there is zilch to stop you running both MT4 and MT5 clients at the same time.

    It is only a matter of time before a MT4/MT5 compatibility is developed. Most likely this will be in the shape of a compatibility module or MT4 virtualization plugin for MT5. Rather than recoding every MT4 indicator and EA for MT5, it is nearly certain that some clever programmers will code a virtual MT4 plugin platform for MT5. Much like the way you can now run Windows in a virtual machine on a Linux box or Linux inside OS X.

    Once a tool is developed to convert existing Expert Advisors and indictors from MT4 to MT5, then the uptake of the MT5 platform will happen more quickly.

    Here is the official announcement about MQ4 and MQ5 compatibility:

    ‘From the beginning of Metatrader 5 development we presumed that we’ll be able to save the compatibility. And we announced about it many times. But the countless traders/developers requests made us change our mind. We’ve understood that just can not make a new language compatible. At the same time we have made MQL5 more powerful and in this fashion we gave you, traders and developers, more capabilities – that was our main goal in developing of MQL5 IDE. From one side, new language with the new abilities, and from the other side – MQL4 and MQL5 compatibility. Sadly, these 2 aims can’t be contacted at the same time.’ Interview with Metrader5 lead developer

    The complaint frequently heard about MT4 is that it was built by programmers not traders. Definitely it was assembled with attention on the front end and’client side’ rather than the brokers back office side. The platform itself evolved from a price and info delivery terminal that became very popular with traders. Users then started to ask whether trading functions may be built into it. Metaquotes used the same architecture and added trading functionality to it, leading some to call MT4 a Frankenstein creation.

    No Hedging and observance of the New NFA Rules.

    Some may feel that the NFA regulated foreign exchange brokers are driving the MT5 development. Others are saying the MT5 position/order management is to the benefit of the brokers not the traders. Afterall, it’s the brokers who pay for the Metatrader platform.

    To meet ***** industry standards, MT5 changes the entire core of position handling. From this point on MT5 traders will be able to keep only one position of any single trading instrument/currency pair. This reflection of orders aligns with the new FIFO ( first-in, first-out ) rule implemented by NFA as a sector standard in summer 2009.

    Hedging at about that point is eliminated and so is the separate management of 2 different in time orders on the same currency pair. Purchasing and Selling the same pair ( hedging methodology ) will end up in nil positions being open.

    For example : 9:00am Long GBP/USD 1 lot 1.3000, and later added 12:00pm Long GBP/USD 2 lots 1.3500, will be seen on Metatrader 5 account as one position’Long GBP/USD three lots’.

    The first order to shut is always the order that was initiated first, so it’ll always be the 8:00am Long position to close in our example above.


    Is the FIFO and No Hedging a Show Stopper?

    No individual orders listed, NO Hedging, and INCOMPATIBLE with anything MT4. Is this a step BACKWARDS?

    If you like the way MT4 works for you now and or have made the move to a non NFA regulated broker then MT5 doesn’t look a really tasty prospect.

    However there’ll be other instruments and charts accessible beyond *****. Such as futures ( cfd-versions ) together with heaps of option classes. Lots of opportunities for real-world hedging, ( i.e. Where the 2 instruments aren’t matching ) and for trading styles that are at present not possible. Like buying options on signals, instead of just going long or short the currency pair. Or constructing ***** grids with options.

    Some traders have asserted that FIFO ( first order in first order out ) impedes counter trend trading or engaging in a quick scalp in the other way when you already have an open position. It doesn’t affect your net position but it affects the way you must manage your trades.

    Correlation Code Cheat SheetsCorrelation secrets are also a noticeable alternative way to hedge. Hedging a position can be accomplished by taking position in more than one interrelated currency pair. And in MT5 this could be expanded to currency exchange options and their underlying currencies or currency exchange futures and their own options. Actually if you’re trading on more than one currency pair then currency correlations and their impact leverage and risk is something that has to be well understood.

    Dari info lain disini

    [IMG]http://www.100*****brokers.com/mfiles/mt5_positions.png[/IMG]

    bagi yang udah pake ini platform mohon di share pengalamannya dengan metatrader yang baru ini dunk seperti apa. Supaya semua tahu dan mengenal dan bisa beradaptasi dengan platform yang baru ini.

    Thanks
    Terimakasih infonya ini saya mau coba pakai dan belajr dulu, kalau dilihat dari penjelasannya mt 5 lebih baik dari pda mt4 tetapi kita perlu beradaptasi dulu soalnya masih baru.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonggol View Post
    Terimakasih infonya ini saya mau coba pakai dan belajr dulu, kalau dilihat dari penjelasannya mt 5 lebih baik dari pda mt4 tetapi kita perlu beradaptasi dulu soalnya masih baru.
    Sama sama brader,,, sesuatu yang baru emang harus dicoba. baru kelihatan kinerjanya gimana dan hasilnya gimana .... tapi belum sempet nyoba juga neh, belum sempet

    Quote Originally Posted by **one View Post
    Wah MT5 ernyata masih beta, ya brarti buat demo aja, buat real acc gak mau coba-cobi ane
    Sebaiknya gitu brader,,, demo account dulu kan baru di bikin kontes EA jg. sekalian ngetes MT5 nya katanya
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    masi jauh dari harapan Mt5 ini
    keknya metaquotes corp mau penestrasi ke USA broker jadi dia g bisa hedge
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    masi banyak bug katanya blm bisa d harapkan.masi mending pake mt4..

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